In today’s episode of Women in Supply Chain, I’m joined by award-winning co-founder and CEO and self-confessed lover of people and possibilities, Melodie Van Der Baan.

An industry trailblazer, Melodie’s journey began as a distributor and independent retailer. And, driven by her entrepreneurial spirit and everything she learned, she went on to co-found Max Retail, a platform that empowers brands to free up cash and clear out stale inventory.

Today Melodie will be talking all about her career journey; juggling motherhood and entrepreneurship; embracing a ‘we lift while we climb’ approach to growth; and understanding the intricate dance between supply and demand.

SHOW SPONSOR

The Women in Supply Chain Forum was created by Marina Mayer and Jason Desearle to foster real connections—bringing men and women together to network, learn, and build lasting bonds beyond traditional conferences. It’s about strengthening pipelines, creating a community of advocates, mentors, and trusted peers. Similarly, the Women in Supply Chain Award was born from a need to recognize female leaders navigating challenges and driving change. Since its inception five years ago, it has grown to nearly 400 submissions, celebrating the achievements of women shaping the future of supply chain. Find out more at Supply and Demand Chain Executive.

IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:

[04.04] The early years of Melodie’s career, why she fell in love with retail, and how her experiences laid the groundwork for her entrepreneurial journey.

“I loved every store, every city, every boutique owner I visited and sold to. But, without fail, they would point out what didn’t sell from the season before, and say ‘Mel, what are you going to do about it?’ And so I had to find a solution to their problem.”

“My husband said: ‘This isn’t a you problem, it’s an industry problem. It’s a lack of a network that needs to exist, and you should create it!’ But this was before Amazon, Shopify wasn’t a thing yet, Point of Sales were server-based, not cloud-based. So even though the problem was real, the industry wasn’t ready for the solution.”

[08.31] Why Melodie chose not to go to college, her Mother’s words of advice, and why she decided to open her own retail store.

“Every step of my journey has been so natural.”

[11.56] Melodie’s experience as a working Mom, setting an example for her daughter, and why experience is the best teacher.

[15.09] Melodie’s advice for parents struggling with work/life balance, and why consistency is key.

“We can’t give our best at work and leave the scraps for our family.”

[19.33] How Melodie developed a unique understanding of the intricate dance between supply and demand, the biggest challenges faced by retailers and distributors, and why understanding your inventory is crucial.

[24.57] Why Melodie moved from retail to technology, an overview of her business Max Retail, and how she brings retail experts and tech leaders together to solve the biggest industry challenges.

“It was never an intention to become a CEO of a technology company. The truth is that there was no way to solve the problem without technology.”

[29.37] Melodie’s experience as a woman navigating the worlds of retail, technology and supply chain, and her uniquely positive outlook.

“When you know the authenticity of someone, it can gender-neutralize.”

[32.22] Melodie’s commitment to taking a ‘we lift while we climb’ approach, the role others have played in her success, and how she pays it forward.

[36.00] Melodie’s biggest achievements, personally and professionally, and the passion that drives them.

[38.18] The future for Melodie, and for Max Retail.

RESOURCES AND LINKS MENTIONED:

You can connect with Melodie Van Der Baan over on LinkedIn.

If you enjoyed this episode and want to hear the experiences of other hard-working Moms, check out 464: Women in Supply Chain, Beverly Steele, 359: Women in Supply Chain, Alexis Mizell-Pleasant or 425: Women In Supply Chain, Josephine Coombe.

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In today’s episode of Women in Supply Chain, I’m joined by Alexia McLaughlin, a dynamic sales leader with a passion for technology and building from the ground up.

Alexia is a results-oriented, self-starting team player, passionate about logistics, entrepreneurship and the digital world. As Head of Enterprise Sales at logistics platform Veho, Alexia’s strategic initiatives have driven Veho’s entry into untapped markets, onboarded household brand names, and closed deals worth over $24 million.

Today Alexia will be talking all about her career journey; making an impact through innovation; her commitment to fostering a culture of excellence; and her biggest challenges and achievements as an industry rising star.

SHOW SPONSOR

The Women in Supply Chain Forum was created by Marina Mayer and Jason Desearle to foster real connections—bringing men and women together to network, learn, and build lasting bonds beyond traditional conferences. It’s about strengthening pipelines, creating a community of advocates, mentors, and trusted peers. Similarly, the Women in Supply Chain Award was born from a need to recognize female leaders navigating challenges and driving change. Since its inception five years ago, it has grown to nearly 400 submissions, celebrating the achievements of women shaping the future of supply chain. Find out more at Supply and Demand Chain Executive.

IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:

[03.52] An introduction to Alexia and her role at Veho.

“If Uber and UPS had a baby, it would be Veho!”

[05.08] How Alexia began her career in sales, and her journey through roles at Oracle and Jebbit to her current position at Veho.

“I never thought I was going to be in sales! That used car salesman connotation springs to your mind… But, when I was coming out of college, a lot of mentors who’s careers I admired started in sales. So I thought: ‘OK, I’m going to give this a try! I don’t know if I’ll love it, but I’ll learn a lot.’”

[09.07] Alexia’s experience moving from a big, corporate environment to a smaller, start-up culture.

“When you’re working for a big company, there’s a lot of layers, it’s very bureaucratic, there’s a lot of structure and process. But I wanted ambiguity. Both of my roles after Oracle you were building as you were steering the ship… It was exciting, and every day was different.”

[11.08] Making impact through innovation, the importance of ‘selling in’ to internal stakeholders, and how Alexia successfully led a new business opportunity, navigating the complexity of managing risk, expectation, and leadership buy-in.

“When you’re on the front line selling, and then coming back to the business to help inform the products and the offerings that we build, that’s a role that drives impact – and that’s exactly what I wanted.”

[15.31] From working with mentors to backing your approach with data, Alexia’s advice for building career confidence.

[17.23] Alexia’s biggest career achievement, and why it’s vital for women to understand their impact and to share and celebrate their successes.

[20.54] The challenges Alexia has faced during her career, and the turbulent nature of sales.

“I’ve had so many times of doubt, thinking: ‘I’m done with sales!’… It’s an up and down rollercoaster… There have been a thousand little failures along the way.”

[22.06] How to foster a culture of excellence, and why that’s so important.

“You have to lead by example… With new hires there’s only so much you can do in the training and onboarding process. The rest has to come from them seeing excellence throughout the organization. If everyone is operating at a high bar, you start to learn from observing the actions that are celebrated, the calibre of the team – and if you hire great, hungry people that want to operate at that level, then there’s a nice healthy stimulating environment.”

[24.29] What Alexia’s Rising Star award at this year’s Women in Supply Chain Awards means to her, and her advice for young women looking to follow in her footsteps.

[26.02] The future for Alexia, and her ambition for Veho over the next five years.

RESOURCES AND LINKS MENTIONED:

You can connect with Alexia McLaughlin over on LinkedIn.

If you enjoyed this episode and want to hear from more inspirational women, check out 444: Women In Supply Chain, Gina Anderson, 429: Women In Supply Chain, Kameel Gaines or 410: Women In Supply Chain, Julie Tilenius.

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Retailers and manufacturers are wrestling with rising freight and storage expenses while goods pile up at ports pending new compliance documentation or re-exportation. The increasing complexity around import classifications and duties is forcing supply chain teams to invest in trade compliance and legal advisory services to keep shipments moving. In the United States, importers are reporting delivery delays of up to three weeks, especially for parts critical to automotive and consumer electronics production. Meanwhile, ports like Los Angeles, Long Beach, and Savannah are undergoing significant congestion as businesses attempt to front-load shipments ahead of escalating tariffs.

These disruptions are seeping into B2B relationships, with many suppliers renegotiating pricing to account for higher duties and raw material costs. Many companies are accelerating nearshoring efforts, but domestic suppliers aren’t yet scaled to meet new demands, leading to a temporary bottleneck in supply availability. Additionally, smaller companies, without multinationals’ financial buffer or sourcing flexibility, are struggling to adapt, potentially triggering consolidation or market exits altogether. As geopolitical tensions persist, businesses are realizing that the new tariff landscape is a structural shift that demands long-term re-strategizing.

But, there’s always a silver lining. Because rising to meet the moment demands diversity in thought and representation, and the logistics industry has a vibrant and expansive talent pool. Our Let’s Talk Supply Chain Women In Supply Chain program, blog, and podcast series feature the powerful impact of growing gender representation. We hope our Women In Supply Chain blog series inspires you to bring people from different backgrounds together for deeper and more meaningful collaboration.

There couldn’t be a better time to introduce supply chain powerhouse and thought leader, Jenn Morris. Jenn creates supply chain content and is the founder of Ship Happens, an education company that provides supply chain mapping and services to inform people on the industry and its impact on our lives. She is passionate about helping companies optimize their logistics and operations.

1. How did your supply chain journey start?

Like many people, I fell into logistics by accident. Because of a loved one’s illness, I was looking for a job closer to family, and I landed a role as an account manager at CH Robinson. Turns out, I’m pretty good at logistics and account management. Eventually, I outgrew CHR and moved around a bit before launching my boutique brokerage almost a decade ago. I founded Ship Happens at the end of 2023 after noticing an opportunity in logistics media, specifically for women and SMBs.

2. How have mentors played a role in your growth as a woman in supply chain?

Honestly, the only formal industry mentors I’ve had have been men, and they didn’t ‘get’ me. I was told many times to “dial back” my talkative nature and high energy. And I did, for a while, until I was a shell of myself. The only advice and guidance I take now is from other women who want me to succeed and shine just as bright as they do.

3. What’s your experience working in a male-dominated industry?

Like many women in this industry, I’ve had my fair share of being talked over, underestimated, or mistaken for someone’s assistant. But honestly, it’s also been empowering. You learn to speak louder, stand your ground, and throw in a little sarcasm when needed. I’ve had to prove myself more times than I can count, but it’s made me sharper, more confident, and way better at calling out BS. Being a woman in this space means paving your own way and holding the door open for other women, too.

4. When did you find your voice in your career?

Finding my voice was a slow build, part getting older and more grounded in who I am, and part watching a former employer systematically push out strong, intelligent women who challenged the status quo. It was disheartening, and I was angry. But over time, that anger turned into clarity. I realized I needed to channel that energy into something positive: a space where women in the industry feel seen, supported, and heard.

5. What advice do you have for women in supply chain and others looking to start a career in the industry?

Do your best to kick impostor syndrome to the curb. No matter what your brain tells you, you are intelligent, experienced, and skilled. Your opinions matter. So, speak up. Your ideas deserve to be heard.

6. Who do you admire in and outside of the supply chain?

Yes, there are so many. In this industry, I find any woman who has carved out her own path and broken from the norm to be so inspiring. Sarah Barnes-Humphrey, Blythe Milligan, and so many others out there are forging paths for others to follow. 

Outside of the industry, my mom is the most inspiring person. She is currently battling an incurable cancer, she is living her life, and making the most of it, however she can. Her light shines so bright even in what some would describe as her darkest time.

7. What have you learned on your supply chain journey so far and what’s next?

I’ve learned I’m scrappy as hell. Things go wrong constantly in this industry, and I’ve had my fair share of failures; some were my fault, some not, but I always bounce back stronger. I’ve also realized my humor and personality are superpowers. I’ve found that leading with humor and authenticity helps people let their guard down, and that’s been key to building strong relationships.

In the future, I plan to grow my Ship Happens blog readership, monetize it, help more SMBs through consulting, and even speak or moderate at an event or two.

8. What does this Women In Supply Chain feature mean to you?

Being part of the Women in Supply Chain series honestly feels pretty validating. It’s nice to step back for a second and reflect on how far I’ve come and share that with others who can relate. This industry can be a grind, and it means a lot to be part of something that shines a light on the women out here making it happen.

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The Women in Supply Chain Forum was created by Marina Mayer and Jason Desearle to foster real connections—bringing men and women together to network, learn, and build lasting bonds beyond traditional conferences. It’s about strengthening pipelines, creating a community of advocates, mentors, and trusted peers. Similarly, the Women in Supply Chain Award was born from a need to recognize female leaders navigating challenges and driving change. Since its inception five years ago, it has grown to nearly 400 submissions, celebrating the achievements of women shaping the future of supply chain. Find out more: Supply & Demand Chain Executive.

About the Author

Naomi Sylvian is a content marketing leader with more than 17 years of experience, and the editor of Let’s Talk Supply Chain’s Women in supply chain series. Her works have appeared on Forbes, Mashable, Business Insider, The Muse, and Yahoo, and have been mentioned by The New York Times Online. Naomi mentors at-risk teens to fight recidivism and contribute on a local level, working with the Arizona Department of Juvenile Corrections. Subscribe to her LinkedIn newsletter, The Chain Explained, for all things Supply Chain broken down with as many pop-culture references as possible, or view her marketing portfolio online.          

In today’s episode of Women in Supply Chain, I’m joined by award-winning industry leader Beverly Steele.

For over 25 years, Beverly has consistently demonstrated outstanding leadership and innovation within supply chain. With a focus on revolutionizing the e-commerce returns experience, Beverly leverages her business development expertise to drive SaaS solutions that enhance customer satisfaction and streamline reverse logistics.

Today Beverly will be talking all about her journey; making a big change mid-career; what it means to be a workforce innovator; and her take on work-life balance.

SHOW SPONSOR

The Women in Supply Chain Forum was created by Marina Mayer and Jason Desearle to foster real connections—bringing men and women together to network, learn, and build lasting bonds beyond traditional conferences. It’s about strengthening pipelines, creating a community of advocates, mentors, and trusted peers. Similarly, the Women in Supply Chain Award was born from a need to recognize female leaders navigating challenges and driving change. Since its inception five years ago, it has grown to nearly 400 submissions, celebrating the achievements of women shaping the future of supply chain. Find out more at Supply and Demand Chain Executive.

IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:

[04.29] An introduction to Beverly and her role at Inmar.

[05.11] Beverly’s career journey, and her decades of varied experience.

“I’ve been in reverse logistics well over 20 years. I actually stopped saying how long because I realized I’d been in it longer than some of my colleagues have been alive!”

[07.15] Beverly’s 20-year tenure at CORT, and an overview of the roles she took on as she climbed the ranks.

[08.07] Inmar’s joint venture with Blue Yonder to create a returns drop network that reduces costs for brands and makes life easy for consumers.

[09.46] Why Beverly made a big change mid-career, what she was looking for in her next step, and her advice for other mid-career professionals considering making a change.

“I’d moved up in the ranks and there weren’t many places for me to go to make the money I wanted to make and have the challenges that I wanted… It was scary, but sometimes I think: why didn’t I leave sooner?!’”

[12.33] From sales to reverse logistics technology – why Beverly transitioned to a different space in the industry, and the benefits of pivoting.

[14.41] Beverly’s Woman in Supply Chain Forum award, what being a ‘workforce innovator’ means to her, and the importance of increasing support and success for work from home teams.

“I’ve always had a passion for women in supply chain, and giving them the tools and opportunities to move into leadership.”

[15.46] As a part of multiple organizations and a champion for women, the big issue Beverly hears women in the workplace raise, time and again.

“Women don’t want to complain, it’s hard to find a voice without being looked at as angry or difficult.”

[17.49] What her ‘workforce innovator’ award means to Beverly, and why forums and awards for women are so important.

[20.05] Beverly’s experience of being a working Mom, the bias and discrimination still in play, and what needs to change to improve workplaces and cultures for working mothers.

“I spent most of my life hiding the fact that I was a Mom at work, I never wanted to talk about my kids in case people thought I was less dedicated. Then I dropped my kids off at school and, to my Mom friends who didn’t work, I was hiding the fact that I was a working Mom because they would say: ‘oh she’s leaving her kids.’ It was lonely.”

[23.03] Beverly’s take on work-life balance, and why it’s crucial to build a lifestyle that works for you.

“You need to be really clear on what’s important to you. And if you’re in a work environment where you’re not able to live the life you want, maybe it’s time for a change. Because not every company is going to have a culture that you’ll thrive in.”

[26.05] The future for Beverly.

RESOURCES AND LINKS MENTIONED:

You can connect with Beverly Steele over on LinkedIn.

If you enjoyed this episode and want to hear more from Inmar, check out 372: Women in Supply Chain, T.J. Kragenbrink or SEA 2, EP 87 – Are you getting the most out of your returns?

Check out our other podcasts HERE.

In today’s episode of Women in Supply Chain I’m joined by Christine Barnhart for a special episode in honor of International Women’s Day.

Christine has over 25 years of expertise in manufacturing, purchasing, planning, marketing and strategy. Recognized as one of the Top Women in Supply Chain by Supply and Demand Chain Executive, Christine was elected to the Association of Supply Chain Management board of directors in 2022, and is actively involved in leadership and education at several supply chain industry groups.

Today Christine and I will be talking about some of the biggest issues impacting women right now. We’ll be taking a closer look at what supply chain looks like for women around the world and discussing the disappointing results of Gartner’s ninth annual Women in Supply Chain survey. We’ll be exploring the impact of bias and changing DEI narratives on women’s progress, and putting the spotlight onto the women that inspire us. And we’ll be sharing advice and resources  for organizations and individuals looking to empower women and close the gender pay parity gap.

SHOW SPONSOR:

Supply & Demand Chain Executive

This year, we received over 400 submissions for our Women In Supply Chain award, the highest amount of applications not only for this award but also for all of our awards. What’s more, 118 of those applications were submitted by male counterparts, nominating their boss, co-worker, or associate. Last year, that figure was just at 75. Also this year, 39 women self-nominated, a tremendous uptick from last year’s award, which just saw 12 self-nominations. This shows progress. This shows hope that one day, we won’t need an award like this because men and women in the supply chain will be equal,” says Marina Mayer, Editor-in-Chief of Food Logistics and Supply & Demand Chain Executive. “While there’s still more work to be done, what we’re doing is working. That’s why this award is so important to Food Logistics and Supply & Demand Chain Executives. From truck drivers to CEOs, what these winners are doing matters to the future of all supply chains. What these female leaders, entrepreneurs, and supply chain professionals are doing continues to push the needle toward excellence, and every year, I feel blessed to celebrate these wonderful women of logistics. And we’re doing just that at this year’s Women In Supply Chain Forum, set for Nov. 14-15 in Atlanta. Go to WomeninSupplyChainForum to register and learn more. We’re all better together. Collaboration is key to promoting and supporting Women In Supply Chain.

IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:

[06.01] An introduction to Christine and her new role at Nulogy.

[07.45] Christine’s experience as a woman in both US and Canadian companies, the differences in organizations across different territories, and what we can learn from the countries leading the way in gender equity.

“For me, it’s been interesting to compare and contrast what the culture is like in these companies,  but also what regulation and policy differences there are.”

[10.38] The challenges for women in developing countries, the misunderstood areas of supply chain, and why data showing strong female representation across the industry doesn’t necessarily tell the whole story.

“When we look at developing countries in particular, they need expertise and strong leaders but, in a lot of those countries, it’s a very masculine, patriarchal society… They’re not going to get the results they need unless they bring women to the table.”

“It’s more than how many women. It’s what percentage are actually in a managerial or leadership position, do they actually have a voice? It’s about more than just opening the door and letting people in – it’s about making sure you’re inviting them to the table.”

[14.11] The impact of bias and changing conversations around DEI, and the importance of women coming together towards a shared goal and building ecosystems that make a difference.

“I look at representation – does an organization really represent the geographies it’s serving?”

[28.27] Some of the incredible women in supply chain that inspire Christine and Sarah, and the importance of opening up better methods of communication within the community.

[40.21] From transparency to empathy, Christine’s advice for organizations looking to empower women and achieve gender pay parity.

[42.38] Helpful resources, and the importance of female relationships, as well as of prioritising yourself as a woman.

“I love my husband and my children and my job. But I also need the time to nurture me, and to educate me, and to have conversations. Because I’m better in every part of my life when I do that.”

RESOURCES AND LINKS MENTIONED:

You can connect with Christine over on LinkedIn.

If you enjoyed this episode and want to hear more from Christine, listen to 380: Women in Supply Chain, Christine Barnhart or check out her live show Supply Chain Unfiltered.

Check out our other podcasts HERE.

In today’s episode of Women in Supply Chain, I’m joined by passionate founder and CEO Jenny Perlitch.

Jenny is the founder and CEO of Perlitch Transport, a Women Business Enterprise certified company, specializing in transport solutions across North America. With nearly two decades of experience in transport and logistics, Jenny is known for her hands-on approach, dedication to her team, and commitment to fostering a positive and inclusive workplace culture.

Today Jenny will be talking all about her career journey; tackling challenges head-on; the lessons she’s learned as a woman and immigrant; and the importance of supporting diversity within the transportation industry.

SHOW SPONSOR:

Supply & Demand Chain Executive

This year, we received over 400 submissions for our Women In Supply Chain award, the highest amount of applications not only for this award but also for all of our awards. What’s more, 118 of those applications were submitted by male counterparts, nominating their boss, co-worker, or associate. Last year, that figure was just at 75. Also this year, 39 women self-nominated, a tremendous uptick from last year’s award, which just saw 12 self-nominations. This shows progress. This shows hope that one day, we won’t need an award like this because men and women in the supply chain will be equal,” says Marina Mayer, Editor-in-Chief of Food Logistics and Supply & Demand Chain Executive. “While there’s still more work to be done, what we’re doing is working. That’s why this award is so important to Food Logistics and Supply & Demand Chain Executives. From truck drivers to CEOs, what these winners are doing matters to the future of all supply chains. What these female leaders, entrepreneurs, and supply chain professionals are doing continues to push the needle toward excellence, and every year, I feel blessed to celebrate these wonderful women of logistics. And we’re doing just that at this year’s Women In Supply Chain Forum, set for Nov. 14-15 in Atlanta. Go to WomeninSupplyChainForum to register and learn more. We’re all better together. Collaboration is key to promoting and supporting Women In Supply Chain.

IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:

[05.15] Jenny’s journey from Ukraine to Germany to Canada, and what it taught her.

“It taught me a lot. All of a sudden you’re thrown from your comfortable environment to one with a completely different language and culture… I learned resilience and adaptability, and they really helped me in business. It made me independent and I believed things could be done.”

[07.58] Why Jenny’s computer science background is so compatible with a career in supply chain.

“It’s a way of thinking. I’ll look at things as a problem that could be solved by building an algorithm. Take something complex and break it down into smaller parts, automate those parts, and put it all back together like a beautiful puzzle.”

[11.35] How a summer job became a lifelong career in supply chain for Jenny when she discovered a joy in pushing out of her comfort zone and a talent for problem-solving.

[13.39] Why Jenny co-founded IRT Technologies, specializing in equipment for the satellite market, in 2011.

[15.14] Why, in the same year, Jenny also founded Perlitch Transport and the challenges of founding and growing two businesses simultaneously.

“I was single, I had to do something!”

[19.00] The areas of business Jenny is most passionate about, as a founder and CEO, and why it’s important to recognize your strengths and weaknesses.

“I really like the strategic side of the business. You try something, look at the results, and try a different way… But I’m very quick to do things, sometimes I lack patience… It’s important to be honest about your weakness, fill in the gaps with great people, and then empower those people.”

[20.52] Some of the toughest challenges Jenny has faced while running her businesses, and her unique approach to overcoming them.

[27.31] Jenny’s experience as a woman in supply chain, and what she’s learned.

“It’s a very male-dominated industry… You feel it very quickly when you’re trying to get in… In the early days, when I had a good idea, a good vision, and I knew how to do things… they brushed me off, didn’t take me seriously or let me finish. And eventually your voice becomes low and apologetic. At that point, you have to put yourself back together, and try a different door.”

[31.47] How Jenny creates positive and inclusive cultures within her own organizations, and her advice for other businesses looking to do better.

[34.28] The importance of awards, and what they mean for the industry as it continues to strive for improved diversity and equity.

[38.48] The future for Jenny.

RESOURCES AND LINKS MENTIONED:

You can connect with Jenny over on LinkedIn.

If you enjoyed this episode and want to hear from more incredible women, check out 422: Women In Supply Chain, Kiran Mann, 437: Women In Supply Chain, Mercedes Pina or 207: Women in supply chain, Shana Zheng.

Check out our other podcasts HERE.

In today’s episode of Women in Supply Chain, I’m joined by industry ‘rising star’ Nikki Driskill.

Nikki has spent over 26 years in logistics, working mostly in operations and customer service. Now Vice President of Customer Service at STG Logistics, the nation’s largest, fully integrated port-to-door service provider, Nikki is passionate about truly making a difference in the industry.

Today Nikki will be talking all about her career journey; the changing face of customer service; her passion for people leadership; and why she wants to inspire others to pursue a career in logistics.

SHOW SPONSOR:

Supply & Demand Chain Executive

This year, we received over 400 submissions for our Women In Supply Chain award, the highest amount of applications not only for this award but also for all of our awards. What’s more, 118 of those applications were submitted by male counterparts, nominating their boss, co-worker, or associate. Last year, that figure was just at 75. Also this year, 39 women self-nominated, a tremendous uptick from last year’s award, which just saw 12 self-nominations. This shows progress. This shows hope that one day, we won’t need an award like this because men and women in the supply chain will be equal,” says Marina Mayer, Editor-in-Chief of Food Logistics and Supply & Demand Chain Executive. “While there’s still more work to be done, what we’re doing is working. That’s why this award is so important to Food Logistics and Supply & Demand Chain Executives. From truck drivers to CEOs, what these winners are doing matters to the future of all supply chains. What these female leaders, entrepreneurs, and supply chain professionals are doing continues to push the needle toward excellence, and every year, I feel blessed to celebrate these wonderful women of logistics. And we’re doing just that at this year’s Women In Supply Chain Forum, set for Nov. 14-15 in Atlanta. Go to WomeninSupplyChainForum to register and learn more. We’re all better together. Collaboration is key to promoting and supporting Women In Supply Chain.

IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:

[05.08] How Nikki found supply chain, and how the industry has changed over the course of her career.

“I started so long ago that when you looked for a job, you looked in the newspaper!”

[10.59] Why Nikki’s career ambitions changed when she fell in love with supply chain; how she discovered a passion for people leadership; and why strong women inspired her to want to build relationships and make a difference.

“I was very young and my intent was: ‘I’m going to take this role, and then figure out what I want to do when I grow up’… Then I realized I loved it. There were so many bold women in leadership roles – and I wanted to be them.”

[15.38] Nikki’s experience of repeated mergers and acquisitions, and how they gave her opportunities to explore the industry and learn new skills.

“Each time that we were acquired, things got better in so many different ways… I feel like I’ve worked for four different companies.”

[23.12] How customer service, and its role in relation to wider business success, has changed throughout Nikki’s career, with the impact of factors like technology and new generations of workers.

“A verbal conversation is good for relationship-building, but we don’t have that so much anymore with tech… you have to work differently.”

[32.46] The importance of industry awards, especially for women.

“It matters so much for women… We need to be reminded to celebrate each other.”

[34.32] Nikki’s experience as a woman moving through a male-dominated industry, climbing the ladder, and holding leadership positions.

[39.59] Why Nikki wants to inspire others to pursue a career in logistics, and why it’s such a good career choice for women.

[42.32] The future for Nikki.

“I want to spend a lot more time mentoring, and making a difference… I want to share what I have – and I don’t plan on exiting the industry, that’s for sure!”

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You can connect with Nikki over on LinkedIn.

If you enjoyed this episode and want to hear from more women excelling in customer service and client experience, check out 437: Women In Supply Chain, Mercedes Pina or 415: Women In Supply Chain, Evin Sisemore.

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The shift to circular supply chains is critical to generating new business opportunities while limiting the company’s carbon footprint and resulting environmental impact. Organizations like IKEA have already implemented sourcing materials from recycled or renewable sources and initiated product repairs to eliminate risk.

There’s also a global move to goal setting for carbon neutrality. An evolving low-carbon economy is fast emerging as a business and government priority. And that’s where tech and innovation come into play. Adopting the right technologies will help organizations limit waste and streamline execution.

But sustainable approaches can’t be cultivated in a silo. Partnerships will be key for collaboration across governments, suppliers, corporations, NGOs, and other stakeholders.

Meeting the moment and the future demands of ongoing environmental impacts requires a powerful, diverse, and talented workforce. Our Let’s Talk Supply Chain Women In Supply Chain program, blog, and podcast series share the positive impact of growing gender representation with women and their nonbinary peers. We hope our Women In Supply Chain blog series inspires you to challenge traditional gender roles in the workplace and beyond.  

We are proud to kick off a new year, by celebrating Stacy Glass. She is the Co-founder and Executive Director of ChemFORWARD, where she drives strategic growth, impact, and scale. Stacy builds powerful partnerships, collaborations, and stakeholder engagement that empower ChemFORWARD’s mission to broaden access to chemical hazard data and pinpoint safer alternatives in partnership with industry. Stacy works to end toxic chemical exposure and advance human and environmental equity. She boasts Beyond Duke Service and Leadership and Women in Sustainability Leadership (WSLA) awards.

1. How did your supply chain journey start?

My journey to supply chain has been anything, but linear. It has been a winding path defined by a drive to learn, create, and make a difference— all the best pursuits are.

In retrospect, I can see the through-lines of the last thirty years, including big visions, entrepreneurial spirit, collaborations, and mission-driven work. When I started my career at a management consulting firm in the early nineties, I was motivated by the firm’s vision to transform people’s work environments. With little experience or expertise in these matters, I found my way into client relations where I could share the firm’s vision while bringing others along. The firm grew quickly, and I was able to participate in developing new service offerings and a geographical expansion, feeding my entrepreneurial spirit.

With tons of ideas and enthusiasm but little analytical or formal business training, it was time to get my MBA. I selected the Duke Global Executive MBA program, and it was the best investment I’ve ever made in myself. From there, I moved into supporting start-ups and was motivated by mission-driven work, whether public-private partnerships, social benefit organizations, or nonprofits. My focus on impact led me to the burgeoning field of sustainability where I saw the potential to reshape entire industries.

There is a visionary design philosophy captured in the book, Cradle to Cradle: Remaking the Way We Make Things, by William McDonough and Michael Braungart. That book imparted a new way to think about and ultimately solve seemingly insurmountable challenges for humans and the environment. It profoundly shifted my perspective, outlining a future where industry could be a force for good, not just the culprit and source of pollution.

That’s the perspective I applied in dedicating years of my career to companies implementing this design philosophy. That brought me to supply chain work. Recognizing that my vision required a fundamental shift in how products are made and sourced, I immersed myself in the complexities of the supply chain.

I’m now the Co-founder and Executive Director of ChemFORWARD, a science-based, nonprofit advancing safer chemistry in the supply chain through broader access to high-quality chemical hazard information. ChemFORWARD’s data-sharing model helps leaders make informed decisions at each node of their supply chains.

2. How have mentors played a role in your growth as a woman in supply chain?

While I’ve benefited from informal mentors who challenged me at critical times in my career with honest feedback and new ideas, the most profound influence on my career has undoubtedly been my mother. A career woman with three children in the seventies, she put on a suit every day, held management positions that women had never had before, and faced unguarded bias. Her ability to balance empathy with decisive action has been a constant source of inspiration. Despite her success, she bravely returned to school mid-career to earn her master’s degree. She has inspired me to try to lead with intellect, grace, and a continuous learning mindset. I strive to emulate her ability to navigate complex situations under pressure and inquire before making assumptions.

3. What’s your experience working in a male-dominated industry?

When I started, I was blissfully naive to gender bias in the workplace. I believed that if I worked hard, the results would be undeniable, and I could achieve anything. Thanks to the women who came before me, I could go far in my career before I experienced the reality: bias persists.

Some of my experiences with bias were obvious, but most were more subtle. It’s important to acknowledge that subtle, unexamined, and sometimes unconscious biases are just as real in their consequences. I have moved on from some untenable situations, but it was with regret. I can only imagine what could have been accomplished if these biases were addressed and overcome. Everything suffers, from the work product to the business results and even the mission.

Decades later, I am encouraged and inspired by a new generation of men and women alike who value collaboration in work, partnership in raising their families, and challenging traditional roles and responsibilities for both genders. I think there is more awareness of subtle bias now and a greater willingness to examine one’s own. At ChemFORWARD, we are striving to build a diverse team that values all voices.

4. When did you find your voice in your career?

While I’ve always been outspoken, honing my voice and directing it towards a clear purpose has been an evolving process. Fueled by what some might call ‘irrational confidence,’ and encouraged by my mother’s example, I’ve never been afraid to share my opinions. My approach was to the amusement and occasional dismay of my bosses—especially in the early days. I think what has changed with experience, additional education, and maturity is that my aim is truer. With each experience and challenge, my communication became more focused and strategic, driven by a deeper understanding of the issues. Throughout my career, no matter the topic, clear and persuasive communication was required to achieve the goal.

Today, I am absolutely certain in our vision to eliminate toxic chemical exposure in the supply chain. I am mostly sure about how we will get there and I am not afraid to be wrong and adjust course as needed. These elements, combined with a sense of urgency, embolden me to use my voice for good.

5. What advice do you have for women in supply chain and others looking to start a career in the industry?

When you’re making a decision about which job to pursue or which direction to go, choose based on the people first. A supportive and respectful work environment is essential to your well-being and ability to thrive. Find a team where you feel valued, you can learn, and your voice is heard. It’s an investment in your long-term happiness and success.

Don’t buy into the notion that there’s a correct path or a straight line in your career. Being nimble and resilient will ensure you end up right where you are supposed to be—fulfilled and happy with your work. Embrace the detours, learn from each experience, and never stop believing in your ability to make a difference. The supply chain community needs your talent, your passion, and your unique perspective.

6. Who do you admire in and outside of the supply chain?

That list would be way too long! I admire everyone working to make a positive impact on the world. I’m particularly inspired by people who put their egos aside—we all have them—to achieve a larger vision. One of my most admired female colleagues leads with the motto, “Better Together.” That means recognizing complex challenges require diverse perspectives and a willingness to share knowledge and resources. When that is your strategic framework, anything is possible.

7. What have you learned on your supply chain journey so far and what’s next?

My journey has been a process of self-discovery, revealing the core strengths that have always been there, just waiting for the right opportunities to flourish. This journey has been less about changing who I am and more about understanding my inherent strengths and how to best apply them. My natural curiosity, my drive to connect with people, and my ability to see the bigger picture—these have always been part of me. The opportunities I sought, while diverse, helped me hone those traits.

The people I worked best with led by example and treated me with respect. When I had the opportunity to start ChemFORWARD, I was terrified and excited, but ready. Looking ahead, my focus is on ensuring a strong future for the movement I’m so passionate about. What’s next is ensuring the next generation of leadership in the sustainability and safer chemistry movement are ready. I am focused on identifying and empowering talent. From the talent and diversity I’ve seen as we have been growing ChemFORWARD over the last two years, I know we’re in good hands

8. What does this Women In Supply Chain feature mean to you?

Being featured in the Women in Supply Chain series isn’t just an honor, it’s a powerful platform. It’s a chance to share my story and inspire others to pursue careers in this field and highlight the intersection of supply chain and sustainability in a field critical to our future. Supply chain decisions impact everything from product safety to carbon emissions, and it’s crucial to highlight the link to a sustainable future. The series plays an important role in demonstrating the contributions of non-traditional leaders from diverse backgrounds with a variety of experiences.

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Food Logistics and Supply & Demand Chain Executive’s Women in Supply Chain award, sponsored by Let’s Talk Supply Chain podcast and Blended Pledge project, honors female supply chain leaders and executives whose accomplishments, mentorship, and examples set a foundation for women in all levels of a company’s supply chain network.

About the Author

Naomi Sylvian is a content marketing leader with more than 17 years of experience, and the editor of Let’s Talk Supply Chain’s Women in supply chain series. Her works have appeared on Forbes, Mashable, Business Insider, The Muse, and Yahoo, and have been mentioned by The New York Times Online. Naomi mentors at-risk teens to fight recidivism and contribute on a local level, working with the Arizona Department of Juvenile Corrections. Subscribe to her LinkedIn newsletter, The Chain Explained, for all things Supply Chain broken down with as many pop-culture references as possible, or view her marketing portfolio online.          

Geopolitical tensions and battles along with anticipated tariffs will necessitate nearshoring production, supplier diversification, and proactive planning for contingencies. Your supply chains must be able to respond to disruptions and pivot swiftly to keep a competitive edge. That isn’t anything new, but it’s going to be more critical than ever.

Automation via AI and end-to-end supply chain visibility will also play major roles in promoting more nimble, agile operations. Predictive analytics, the Internet of Things (IoT) sensors, digital twins, and demand forecasting will pinpoint needs at every node and step of your manufacturing and logistics journeys. Expect to hear the hype around autonomous vehicles pick up again, whether or not it comes to fruition.

Whatever challenges come next; you’ll be more prepared to navigate them with a more diverse, resilient workforce. At Let’s Talk Supply Chain, our Women In Supply Chain program, blog, and podcast series continue highlighting the impact of that expansion in gender representation to empower the achievements of women leaders and our nonbinary peers. We want our Women In Supply Chain blog series to motivate you, so, you never let traditional gender roles get in the way of your goals or your ability to make a profound and deeply intentional impact.  

It’s with great honor that we showcase Mary Casillo’s supply chain journey, achievements, and powerful breakthroughs. Mary is the SVP of Business Development at Pallet Alliance, focused on sustainable supply chain orchestration. She fosters business cultures embracing innovation, the ability to make a broad impact, and inclusivity. Mary constantly leverages her abundant and growing social network to build meaningful partnerships and drive her commitment to excellence.

Highly skilled in strategic communications, teamwork, emotional intelligence, public speaking, and sales and marketing, Mary is a powerhouse in the pallet sector who continues driving her career and her employers’ business goals forward. She boasts a master’s degree in sports administration and a bachelor’s in professional and technical communication. She’s dedicated two decades to building meaningful partnerships by showing up with empathy and solving problems.

1. Where did your supply chain journey start?

After earning my Master’s in Sports Administration, I began my career in the fitness industry, managing ten fitness facilities in upstate New York. My primary responsibility was to increase monthly memberships. At that time, I assumed I would remain in the athletic industry. However, I was unexpectedly, and quite literally, (fun story), tackled into the supply chain sector, specifically the pallet industry.

Initially, I had no idea how crucial pallets were to the supply chain process, but I quickly learned and developed a passion for the industry. I wanted to learn everything I could, so I started with managing national pallet programs and made my way into business development. My passion to meet new people and assist their process and responsibilities has led me to where I am today.

2. Have mentors supported your professional growth in supply chain?

Throughout my career, I’ve had the privilege of learning from multiple mentors. There’s a mentor who fits every stage of your professional and personal growth. As we evolve, our mentors often do too. Either because they’ve fulfilled their role or because our journey calls for a different kind of guidance. Some mentors have equipped me with the knowledge to excel in my work, while others have offered the encouragement and advocacy I needed to stay resilient through tough times.

3. What’s your experience working in a male-dominated industry?

Working in a historically male-dominated industry has been challenging and rewarding. I’ve faced obstacles that have tested my resolve and determination but empowered me to make leaps and bounds. Overall, it’s been a journey of continuous learning and breaking barriers, and I’m proud of the progress that’s been made.

4. When did you find your voice in your supply chain career?

I found my voice the day I accepted who I truly am. As a masculine-presenting female and a member of the LGBTQ community in a predominantly male industry, I was once told that someone “like me” could never be the face of a company. That day my mindset shifted.

Instead of working relentless hours, taking on more than anyone should, and letting ignorant comments make me feel I needed to work harder, I decided to focus on my strengths. I concentrated on learning what I needed to succeed. I started investing in myself. My confidence grew, and I trusted that I would find a place where I belonged with people who accepted me for who I am.

5. What advice do you have for women in supply chain and others looking to start a career in the industry?

Don’t let other people have a say in who you are. Only you can harness that power. It takes time and a lot of work, but it’s worth it. Once you harness that power, you’ll become unstoppable.

6. Who do you admire in and outside of the supply chain?

I admire so many incredible women in the pallet industry. I’ve had the privilege of meeting and working with numerous smart, talented, and hardworking women who embody a no-nonsense, “I’m going to get this done” attitude. It seems that to be taken seriously as a woman in this industry, you need to possess all these qualities. Every woman at Pallet Alliance does, along with people I’ve worked with in the past, including Jodi Green, Mckenna Stewart, and Kim Travis. In the industry, I admire Kate Matz, Heather Willingham, Mimi Sullivan, and Hilary Carr. Leaders at women-owned pallet manufacturing companies whom I haven’t had the pleasure of meeting yet, already inspire me. I cheer them on in my head anytime I see women doing their thing in the industry.

7. What have you learned on your supply chain journey so far and what’s next?

It’s challenging to discuss the future because I’m focused on living in the moment and taking things as they come. As long as I can maintain what’s important to me—family, friends, hard work, and humility—I feel my future is limitless. I’m fortunate to work for a great company and do what I truly enjoy professionally. I would love to speak to more people about my journey, sharing the tips and tricks I’ve learned to become more comfortable in my own skin and how that has positively impacted my career.

I look forward to connecting with more women in supply chain with inspiring stories of their own. I am ready to be a stronger advocate for the LGBTQ+ community. And, I want to continue making others’ jobs easier as a powerful force in the pallet industry—sharing solutions with the right capabilities. My hope is to make a positive impact overall within the supply chain community and on women in the pallet sector.

8. What does your Women In Supply Chain feature mean to you?

Being featured in the Women in Supply Chain series is an incredible honor that represents recognition of the hard work and dedication I’ve put into my journey as an LGBTQ+ woman. It’s also an opportunity to share my progress and inspire other women to pursue their passions in their careers. With this visibility, I can advocate for greater diversity and inclusion along with the importance of supporting and uplifting each other.

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Meet Our Sponsors

Food Logistics and Supply & Demand Chain Executive’s Women in Supply Chain award, sponsored by Let’s Talk Supply Chain podcast and Blended Pledge project, honors female supply chain leaders and executives whose accomplishments, mentorship, and examples set a foundation for women in all levels of a company’s supply chain network.

About the Author

Naomi Sylvian is a content marketing leader with more than 17 years of experience, and the editor of Let’s Talk Supply Chain’s Women in supply chain series. Her works have appeared on Forbes, Mashable, Business Insider, The Muse, and Yahoo, and have been mentioned by The New York Times Online. Naomi mentors at-risk teens to fight recidivism and contribute on a local level, working with the Arizona Department of Juvenile Corrections. Subscribe to her LinkedIn newsletter, The Chain Explained, for all things Supply Chain broken down with as many pop-culture references as possible, or view her marketing portfolio online.          

In today’s episode of Women in Supply Chain, I’m joined by award-winning industry leader Maria Madrigal.

Maria is a results-driven supply chain leader and mentor with over 24 years’ experience driving operational excellence. As Director of Operations at WSI, Maria spearheads multiple warehouse operations, fostering a culture of collaboration and performance.

Today Maria will be talking all about her career journey; overcoming challenges in a male-dominated industry; her inspirational leadership style; and what she’s most proud of, as an industry trailblazer.

SHOW SPONSOR:

Supply & Demand Chain

This year, we received over 400 submissions for our Women In Supply Chain award, the highest amount of applications not only for this award but also for all of our awards. What’s more, 118 of those applications were submitted by male counterparts, nominating their boss, co-worker, or associate. Last year, that figure was just at 75. Also this year, 39 women self-nominated, a tremendous uptick from last year’s award, which just saw 12 self-nominations. This shows progress. This shows hope that one day, we won’t need an award like this because men and women in the supply chain will be equal,” says Marina Mayer, Editor-in-Chief of Food Logistics and Supply & Demand Chain Executive. “While there’s still more work to be done, what we’re doing is working. That’s why this award is so important to Food Logistics and Supply & Demand Chain Executives. From truck drivers to CEOs, what these winners are doing matters to the future of all supply chains. What these female leaders, entrepreneurs, and supply chain professionals are doing continues to push the needle toward excellence, and every year, I feel blessed to celebrate these wonderful women of logistics. Go to Supply and Demand Chain Executive to learn more. We’re all better together. Collaboration is key to promoting and supporting Women In Supply Chain.

IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:

[06.56] An introduction to Maria and WSI.

[07.20] Maria’s 24-year tenure at WSI, and what she loves about the business.

“I built relationships, I just love WSI, it’s like a family… like home.”

[08.02] Maria’s first role as a window clerk and what it taught her.

“I saw a lot of disgruntled drivers, but that started my journey of building a thick skin!”

[09.27] Maria’s perspective on formal education within the industry, and finding the balance between real-life experience and academic learning.

“Education is important, but there’s no textbook that’s going to teach you what you learn hands-on.”

[11.27] The challenges Maria faced as a woman in a male-dominated industry.

[14.27] How WSI supported Maria in her journey to becoming their first female Director of Operations, and the role of both mentors and advocates in her growth.

[17.45] The three key qualities every mentor should have, and Maria’s advice for mentees.

“You’ve got to be brave enough to raise your hand – it’s OK to ask for help… And if you don’t ask, you don’t get.”

[19.25] The biggest challenge, and opportunity, for the industry right now.

“I know we have to be automated to be competitive… but, in doing so, the challenge is making sure we don’t lose the connectivity with individuals, that personal one-on-one touch. With automation, we lose that.”

[21.33] Maria’s leadership style, and how it translates to success for her team.

[24.32] Maria’s biggest achievement.

“I felt vindicated. The fact that I’m here, I am who I am now – that’s a testament to my success.”

[27.37] What winning the Women In Supply Chain ‘Trailblazer’ award means to Maria.

“For those that doubted me, here I am today as a trailblazer and a Director.”

[28.31] Maria’s biggest inspiration.

[29.27] The future for Maria, and WSI.

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If you enjoyed this episode and want to hear from more inspirational women, check out 437: Women In Supply Chain, Mercedes Pina, 410: Women In Supply Chain, Julie Tilenius or 321: Women in supply chain, Darcy MacClaren.

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